This Week In Startups is made possible by: Every.io https://every.io Shopify https://shopify.com/twist Render https://render.com/twist Plaud https://Plaud.ai/twist Today’s show: Startups like Divergent Technologies are producing components and aircraft for the military through new systems that are better, faster, and cheaper than conventional methods. CEO and co-founder Lukas Czinger stops by TWiST to share the company’s vertically integrated, AI-driven manufacturing platform and how he transitioned from hypercar parts to working directly with the Pentagon on autonomous aircraft. Plus, 50 million Americans are on antidepressants, and it’s not necessarily the right treatment for all of them. Outro Health co-founders Brandon Goode and Dr. Mark Horowitz share their hyperbolic tapering method, which helps patients get off drugs like Zoloft and Prozac without suffering through traumatic and potentially dangerous side effects. Guests: Lukas Czinger: https://x.com/lukasczinger Divergent Technologies: https://www.divergent3d.com Czinger Vehicles: https://www.czinger.com/ Brandon Goode: https://www.linkedin.com/in/goodebrandon/ Dr. Mark Horowitz: https://x.com/markhoro Outro Health: https://outro.com Relevant Links: Venom launch announcement: https://www.divergent3d.com/company/news/story/venom_launch_20260217 RAACM from CoAspire: https://www.coaspire.com/raacm Desktop Metal: https://www.desktopmetal.com/ Tapering of SSRIs: Lancet paper by Dr. Mark Horowitz: https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanpsy/article/PIIS2215-0366(19)30219-6/fulltext Leaked Zuckerberg Audio: https://x.com/MorePerfectUS/status/2056842597117636890 Matthew Prince Cloudfare WSJ editorial: https://www.wsj.com/opinion/how-i-choose-which-cloudflare-employees-to-replace-with-ai-40a197e5 Axios report on Trump’s AI Executive Order: https://www.axios.com/2026/05/21/trump-ai-executive-order-postponed-why Politico report on David Sacks advising Trump: https://www.yahoo.com/news/politics/articles/trump-yanked-ai-order-david-010642736.html?guccounter=1 “The Box: How the Shipping Container Made the World Smaller and the World Economy Bigger” by Marc Levinson: https://www.amazon.com/Box-Shipping-Container-Smaller-Economy/dp/0691136408 Timestamps: 0:00 Divergent shifted from hypercar development to 3D printing all kinds of components 00:51 Plaud: If your work depends on conversations — interviews, meetings, calls — you need a Plaud NotePin. You can check it out at https://Plaud.ai/twist and use code TWIST for 10% off! 03:28 How 3D printing has exponentially improved 07:36 Making military components faster, better, and cheaper 09:16 Every.io - For all of your incorporation, banking, payroll, benefits, accounting, taxes, or other back-office administration needs, visit https://every.io 10:18 How Divergent caught the Pentagon's attention 19:09 Shopify - Turn those What Ifs into sales with the ecommerce platform powering millions of businesses. Sign up for your $1-per-month trial today at https://shopify.com/twist 24:47 Why Outro Health helps patients taper off SSRIs 29:24 Render - Find out why 5 million developers are already using the all-in-one cloud platform, Render. Go to https://render.com/twist and apply for the Render Startup Program to get $500-$100,000 in free credits, depending on your stage and backers. 35:55 Is depression caused by a "chemical imbalance"? 45:55 Understanding the hyperbolic tapering method 57:50 How Outro makes money 1:09:19 Leaked Meta layoff audio 1:12:59 Cloudflare CEO drops "measurer" roles 1:17:34 CrowdHealth - CrowdHealth lets you ditch the bureaucracy with a peer-to-peer funding platform for your healthcare. Get started for $99 per month for your first three months by using the code TWIST at https://JoinCrowdHealth.com/twist. 1:18:35 Why Trump canceled his AI executive order 1:27:26 Polymarket sharps on Russia vs. Ukraine, SpaceX ticker symbol 1:32:52 Luel vs. Kled update: Is this nepotism at work? 1:36:20 Chris Nolan doesn't have a smartphone 1:42:22 Jason's favorite new espresso machine Subscribe to the TWiST500 newsletter: https://ticker.thisweekinstartups.com Check out the TWIST500: https://www.twist500.com Subscribe to This Week in Startups on Apple: https://rb.gy/v19fcp Follow Lon: X: https://x.com/lons Follow Jason: X: https://twitter.com/Jason LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jasoncalacanis Check out all our partner offers: https://partners.launch.co/ Great TWIST interviews: Will Guidara, Eoghan McCabe, Steve Huffman, Brian Chesky, Bob Moesta, Aaron Levie, Sophia Amoruso, Reid Hoffman, Frank Slootman, Billy McFarland Check out Jason’s suite of newsletters: https://substack.com/@calacanis Follow TWiST: Twitter: https://twitter.com/TWiStartups YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/thisweekin Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thisweekinstartups TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@thisweekinstartups Substack: https://twistartups.substack.com