The $60 billion resource hiding in space, and the startup trying to mine it | E2268




This Week In Startups is made possible by: Wispr Flow - https://wisprflow.ai/twist Circle - http://circle.so/twist Deel - http://deel.com/twist Today’s show: AstroForge is building low-cost, replicable spacecraft to mine platinum group metals from near-Earth asteroids — a $60 billion annual market for materials that are running out on Earth. Founder and CEO Matt Gialich joins the show to talk about the company's ambitious mission, what went wrong on their first two flights, and why Mission 3 could still change everything. PLUS Sam Dare from Templar stops by to talk about training AI models on a decentralized blockchain, and why it’s so much cheaper and more efficient than the conventional “data center full of GPUs” method. AND a demo of OpenOats from creator Yazin Alirhayim of his open source Granola alternative. Astroforge: https://www.astroforge.com/ Templar: https://www.tplr.ai/ Epoch AI decentralized training post: https://epoch.ai/gradient-updates/how-far-can-decentralized-training-over-the-internet-scale OpenOats on Github: https://github.com/yazinsai/OpenOats Timestamps: 0:00 Intro 0:17 Plaud: If your work depends on conversations — interviews, meetings, calls — you need a Plaud NotePin. You can check it out at https://Plaud.ai/twist and use code TWIST for 10% off! 2:23 We aplaud Plaud! 2:36 Astroforge is mining… asteroids?! 5:29 How creating an abundance of Platinum will impact Humanity! 9:14 Wispr Flow: Stop typing. Dictate with Wispr Flow and send clean, final-draft writing in seconds. Visit https://wisprflow.ai/twist to get started for free today. 20:34 Circle: The easiest way to build a home for your community, events, and courses — all under your own brand. TWiST listeners get $1,000 off the Circle Plus Plan by going to https://circle.so/twist. 21:19 How Astroforge uses capitalism to unlock abundance 23:53 J-Cal subscribed to… A socialist magazine? 25:37 Sam Dare of Templar joins the show! 27:05 What is TAO doing that's uniquely different from Bitcoin 29:33 What is the incentive mechanism that Templar uses? 30:02 Deel - Founders scale faster on Deel. Set up payroll for any country in minutes, hire anyone anywhere, get visas handled fast, and get back to building. Visit https://deel.com/twist to learn more. 34:23 Where was Sam when he found out that Jensen was talking about Templar? 37:07 How much does it cost to run templar's model? 44:34 Can decentralized training over the internet scale? https://epoch.ai/gradient-updates/how-far-can-decentralized-training-over-the-internet-scale 46:34 Jason addresses his tao investment 48:06 Why brand is the moat for startups 49:05 When will a better, more exciting version of Bitcoin, can come along? 51:38 Yazin of OpenGranola Joins the show 52:54 How OpenGranola has local LLM's taking notes for you and giving you real time insights in your meeting! 56:47 OpenGranola demo! 1:01:03 Jason's callout for a sidebar that shows all inputs from agents 1:07:13 Why Jason thinks movies will be remade into shows to dive into more detail 1:13:08 The economics of the new harry potter series and HBO/ Warner Brothers 1:22:51 Why Jason wants government surveillance on Disney adults… Subscribe to the TWiST500 newsletter: https://ticker.thisweekinstartups.com Check out the TWIST500: https://www.twist500.com Subscribe to This Week in Startups on Apple: https://rb.gy/v19fcp Follow Lon: X: https://x.com/lons Follow Alex: X: https://x.com/alex LinkedIn: ⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/alexwilhelm Follow Jason: X: https://twitter.com/Jason LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jasoncalacanis Check out all our partner offers: https://partners.launch.co/ Great TWIST interviews: Will Guidara, Eoghan McCabe, Steve Huffman, Brian Chesky, Bob Moesta, Aaron Levie, Sophia Amoruso, Reid Hoffman, Frank Slootman, Billy McFarland Check out Jason’s suite of newsletters: https://substack.com/@calacanis Follow TWiST: Twitter: https://twitter.com/TWiStartups YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/thisweekin Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thisweekinstartups TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@thisweekinstartups Substack: https://twistartups.substack.com

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