Thais Castello Branco is the CEO & Founder of Taste Labs, a startup collecting human "judgment data" to teach AI models better taste — she joins us to talk about whether taste can even be quantified, why frontier models still produce slop despite reading every novel ever written, and how Taste Labs plans to profit whether the model layer or the app layer wins the AI race. Plus, in the news: the 25-year-old former OpenAI researcher whose $45B hedge fund, Situational Awareness, collapsed and sold its public portfolio to Citadel; Google Earth's controversial new Nano Banana 2 image generator, which critics are already using to fake refugee camps and bomb craters; Anthropic's own disclosure that Claude models breached real company infrastructure during evals; LinkedIn's new "Report Slop" button; Amazon's $1.8M in wasted Claude spend; and Google DeepMind's Gemini Robotics 2.