Most SaaS founders obsess over enterprise pricing tiers. This founder charges NFL teams the same as high school teams - and bootstrapped to $10M ARR doing it. Hewitt Tomlin is the co-founder of TeamBuildr, a vertical SaaS platform for strength and conditioning coaches. Instead of building separate products for pro sports and education, he kept one product with flat pricing across every segment - from local high schools to NFL teams. It took 5 years to reach $1M ARR while Hewitt worked a full-time job. But by refusing to raise capital and keeping pricing identical for every customer, he turned NFL logos into social proof that drove volume in the high school market - the segment that actually moves the needle. Today TeamBuildr is a 45-person company doing $10M ARR with the same operating agreement from 2012. Stay for 36:40 where Hewitt explains why his biggest competitor is betting on AI to replace coaches - and why he's betting the opposite. This episode is brought to you by: š ThreatLocker - Book a demo: https://saasclub.io/threatlocker š Gearheart - Book a free consult and get the first 20 hours free: https://saasclub.io/gearheart/book š KEY LESSONS š° Flat Pricing as a Growth Engine: Hewitt charges NFL teams the same as high schools, trading premium revenue for pro-team logos that validate TeamBuildr to the volume market where growth actually happens. šÆ Build for a Job Function, Not a Market Segment: By focusing on the strength coaching workflow rather than targeting colleges or pro sports separately, TeamBuildr's single product works across every segment from high schools to the NFL. š Stalling at $500K Signals a PMF Problem: Hewitt advises founders putting in full-time effort but plateauing for consecutive years to stop tweaking go-to-market and reexamine whether the product solves what the market actually needs. š¤ Treat Early Users as Partners, Not Beta Testers: Hewitt showed up at conferences, called coaches personally, and built relationships instead of handing out logins. His first customer is still a relationship he maintains 13 years later. š ļø Wait for Real Customer Demand Before Building AI: While competitor Volt bets on AI replacing coaches entirely, Hewitt only builds AI features when coaches actually ask for them - which they haven't yet. ā±ļø TIMESTAMPS 00:00 Introduction 01:04 What TeamBuildr does and who it's for 02:25 How the idea started as a social app in college 04:12 Revenue, team size, and business structure today 04:55 Pivoting from athletes to coaches 07:23 The conversation that changed everything 10:10 Building the MVP and making the first dollar 11:45 Getting free users to actually use the product 14:47 Setting expectations on moving from free to paid 17:02 Listening to what customers really want 19:01 Competing with Excel in a market that didn't know SaaS existed 21:32 What worked and what failed in early sales 24:07 Five years to the first million in ARR 26:56 How Hewitt knew he had product-market fit 28:05 Outbound vs inbound on the way to $1M 30:16 Why half the customers are high schools 32:30 Charging NFL teams the same as high school teams 36:40 TeamBuildr's approach to AI vs the competition 41:10 Why customers aren't asking for AI yet 43:07 Lightning round 46:05 Wrap up š§ Full Show Notes: https://saasclub.io/476 š Get weekly 5-minute SaaS insights: https://saasclub.io/email #SaaS #SaaSPricing #BootstrappedSaaS #FounderStory