Today’s show: Jason, Alex, and Lon break down today’s top tech and startup stories — from Slate Auto’s customizable $25K EV truck to Discord’s major leadership shakeup ahead of a potential IPO. They also cover Uber’s self-driving push with Volkswagen, Perplexity AI’s aggressive growth moves, and why value-driven products are winning in a tough economy. Plus, Alex sits down with Tailscale CEO Avery Pennarun to unpack how they grew from 5K to 10K customers — and why fixing internet networking could spark the next huge wave of innovation. Timestamps: (0:00) Jason, Lon and Alex kick off the show! (3:26) Introduction and features of Bezos-backed EV truck company, Slate (7:55) Market impact and value proposition of Slate's EV trucks (9:48) LinkedIn Ads - Get a $100 LinkedIn ad credit at http://www.linkedin.com/thisweekinstartups (14:04) EV features and market potential discussion (17:42) Discord CEO steps down and IPO prospects (20:19) Lemon.io - Get 15% off your first 4 weeks of developer time at https://Lemon.io/twist (24:00) Uber and Volkswagen's self-driving car partnership (28:39) Superpower - The best founders know: better health = better business. Visit http://superpower.com/twist to skip the waitlist. (30:00) Pace of self-driving car adoption and regulation (37:20) Butterfly Effect secures Benchmark investment (38:37) Perplexity and Motorola Razr partnership (43:12) Jason's experience with Light Phone (45:39) New York Times and Ziff Davis lawsuits against OpenAI (50:09) Nonprofit structures and OpenAI's mission issues (54:01) Founder Friday: Pitchfire and TACTUN's two-year plans (1:02:28) Introduction to Tailscale and Avery Pennarun (1:10:17) Tailscale's enterprise adoption (1:21:13) Current Internet networking issues Subscribe to the TWiST500 newsletter: https://ticker.thisweekinstartups.com Check out the TWIST500: https://www.twist500.com Subscribe to This Week in Startups on Apple: https://rb.gy/v19fcp Links from episode: Check out Tailscale: https://tailscale.com/ Check out Slate vehicles: https://www.slate.auto/en Check out Not For Private Gain:https://notforprivategain.org/ Check out the Light Phone: https://www.thelightphone.com/ Check out Oregon lawmakers' article: https://www.oregonlive.com/politics/2025/04/oregon-lawmakers-to-decide-whether-big-tech-should-pay-to-support-local-journalism.html Check out Manus: https://manus.im/ Follow Lon: X: https://x.com/lons Follow Alex: X: https://x.com/alex LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/alexwilhelm Follow Jason: X: https://twitter.com/Jason LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jasoncalacanis Thank you to our partners: (9:48) LinkedIn Ads - Get a $100 LinkedIn ad credit at http://www.linkedin.com/thisweekinstartups (20:19) Lemon.io - Get 15% off your first 4 weeks of developer time at https://Lemon.io/twist (28:39) Superpower - The best founders know: better health = better business. Visit http://superpower.com/twist to skip the waitlist. All rights for the video shared and linked below belong to the original copyright holder, and we are using the footage under the principle of fair use. Listen here: Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/this-week-in-startups-audio/id315114957 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6ULQ0ewYf5zmsDgBchlkr9 Overcast: https://overcast.fm/itunes315114957/this-week-in-startups-audio More from us: Twitter: https://twitter.com/twistartups Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thisweekinstartups Official site: https://thisweekinstartups.com Subscribe to our YouTube to watch all full episodes: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCkkhmBWfS7pILYIk0izkc3A?sub_confirmation=1 Subscribe to TWiST Clips for all the best moments: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCS7tJlcUA6PzVHEMo-X7ddg?sub_confirmation=1 #startups #entrepreneurship #investing #angelinvesting #tech #news #business