$150,000 in credit card debt. $80 of groceries split across three cards for a family of five. Eighteen months in, still zero paying customers. Then Danny Jenkins got on the phone to ask for his first sale. He was shaking. He even started cutting the price before the customer pushed back. Clip from my conversation with Danny Jenkins on The SaaS Podcast. Full episode: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RS8MT27GJDg